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Some Parlay Math from an idiot who thought he could beat the system, but might help others projects

So a couple of things to say from the beginning. I am smart enough to use excel and do some math, which is to say I am not that smart, and I am stupid enough to think that I could somehow figure out a way to use parlays to get free money. Secondly, for some this is going to be super trivial stuff, and for other this isn't going to be worth anything. Regardless, I am putting it out there because you really never know when some random piece of math, or a random discovery/idea you had and threw away is the last piece of a puzzle for someone else.
I had never bet on sports using a book and I knew very little about sports betting before this summer. One of my best friends bets quite a bit and I would pick up tid-bits from him all the time. He talked to me about parlays and having no idea what it was I looked into it. After a quick search and him explaining it some more, I figured it would be worth it to see what would happen if you bet every "leg" of a combination of different parlays. ( That is what I have been calling it myself, what I mean by a leg is lets say you are betting on two moneylines for a basketball game, there are four possible parlays, or legs, win win, lose lose, win lose, and lose win, each parlay would be a leg as I am calling it in the overall system). This is probably already sounding stupid, which it is. I settled on combining soccer with any regular sport like basketball, because its not uncommon to find games where all the odds are positive for the two teams winning and a draw. This meant a total of 6 parlays.
What I did in Excel was pretty rudimentary. I calculated the decimal odds for each parlay. Then I chose an arbitrary amount of money I split between the 6 parlays, say 200$. 200$/6 was 33.3$. (33.33*the odds for the parlay)-200$=profit. Minus 200 because thats the total amount you have spent across the 6 bets. that profit number will always be negative because you will always lose money if you do this. Take that profit and divide by the odds of the parlay. That is how much money you need to add to the original 33.3$ to "maximize" your gain (what you will really be doing is minimizing your losses across the board). Once you do this for each leg, the actual amount that you bet will be different, the lower odds will require more and the higher odds will require less. using the new bet amount, multiply again by the odds, and subtract the total the new betting amounts, for your "profit". All of the profits should be the same number, and they will all be negative.
This number is something you can find just from looking at the odds, I called it the "Parlay Goodness" number. The Parlay Goodness number tells you the percentage of your principle you will lose if you bet all the legs of a parlay. The equation I made assumes that you are using soccer + a regular sport with no draws, and assumes all the soccer odds are positive. As I am looking at my spreadsheet it would take a little to long to describe, so I will link it somehow if you are interested.
The next obvious step on this path was to determine if I could remove a leg, or two legs, and have the operation still be profitable. Remove meaning not bet, this would lower the amount of overhead, but now leaves the hole open for you to lose because you did not bet a certain outcome. I tested 4 different situations. Two where I removed only one leg (5/6), and two where I removed two legs( 4/6).
In the first 5/6 I removed the favorite. I should say that for this part of the story, I converted each of the parlay decimal odds into percentage odds, or the odds it would hit/win. When I removed the "favorite" I removed the leg of the parlay with the highest percentage odds. I did a different scenario using the least likely parlay to happen. The give and take here is that the favorite requires the largest bet size, but is "favored", so while your taking out more overhead, your leaving yourself open to not having bet the most "likey" scenario. When you remove the least likely, you don't really remove much overhead, because it was the one that required the lowest bet size.
The same sort of thing was done for the 4/6, the two favorites were removed and the two least favorite removed.
In order to see if any of these would be profitable over the long term, meaning say if you bet 100 times. I said that (win $/loss$) > (% of the time you lost/ % of the time you won) then you would make money. Where win $ means how much you win if the parlay hits one of the legs you bet, and loss $ is how much you lose if the outcome is one of the leg(s) you didn't bet. The percentage of the time you won was found by adding up those percentages of each leg I talked about earlier, subtracting that from the total percentage of each leg added up, dividing by the total percentage. Then doing 1-that number so it was how often you won not how often you lost, then multiplying by 100 for a %. That is the % of the time you should win, and 100-that is the % of the time you should lose. Throwing all that information into the aforementioned equation should tell you if you have found something interesting or not.
If your actually interested I uploaded my spreadsheets into google. Its a mess, but you may find something you want. For most people this was a stupid post to read, sorry bro. For people who are actually good at excel, sorry bro. For everyone who is a real sports bettor, sorry bro.

TLDR; I did some math because I am stupid.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DMzSSiwLurQGHTV8XAgXOaeDbHUk-n-view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KyWPmfE90yszfrRanJNFbUWsQQVb-l54/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qJW9-Dox_62ytA8FBltO_2GHOHLol3WQ/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QXO_FWEqUYgrPZ7ulShogJ5DID_pucm1/view?usp=sharing

EDIT: I would like to add that if you could ever "insure" your bet so to speak, or bet against your self, as in bet a friend or your book that you would lose money, then you be able to use all this to make money.
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Building an app that lets you bet with your friends

I recently built my first app for iOS and Android called WagerLab which lets you send and track bets with friends. I'd love to get some feedback on how I can improve it. I could also really use beta testers, so if anyone is interested in that, please shoot me a PM.

Here's a link to the app: WagerLab - Ditch the bookie, bet with your friends

I built it because I usually prefer to bet against my friends rather than a sportsbook when possible for simple bets, but usually find agreeing to terms/lines and tracking balances to be tedious. On WagerLab, you can browse upcoming lines, send a bet to a friend, and then keep track of the results which are reflected in your current balance with that friend (the two of you can reset your balance at any time).

Right now, it supports spread bets on NFL, NCAAF, NCAAB, NBA, NHL, MLB, and most worldwide soccer leagues as well as an entertainment category where you can bet on politics, tv shows, awards, current events, etc. I'm hoping to add totals, moneyline, and parlay betting (without juice) in the near future.

Thanks for reading! Let me know what you think.
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Montreal Impact is +200 against FC Cincinnati, but why?

I know talking Major League Soccer isn't attractive, but every week I find extreme value.
This week the Montreal Impact are a prime example. Montreal starts every year with more road games because of wintery weather. This year they're off to a 4-2-3 start. Not great, but not bad.
They're heading to Cincinnati this weekend, a club that has a lot of issues. Cincinnati is 2-2-7 this season, with just one home win.
On Bookmaker I'm seeing the Impact moneyline at +200. What am I missing? Cincinnati hasn't won in seven matches. Their last win was against a team that just allowed six goals and fired their manager.
Either the books know something I don't, or that's a bad line that can be exploited with either a moneyline and/or draw no bet wager.
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[META] Beginner Guide to Soccerbetting

Hi all,
This will serve as a beginner guide for those who are interested in starting to bet on football/soccer. Please feel free to add/comment/suggest any tips or tricks that can help newbies that you feel are necessary to the guide.
Step 1: Pick your bookie and deposit money
First of all you need to pick a bookie. A quick write-up can be found here. Some bookies offer first-deposit or other type of bonusses, however these do involve some requirements. If you are interested in a bonus, I suggest you google "YOUR BOOKIE deposit bonus" quick, to catch the most recent bonus. Next up, you deposit your money on to the bookie. IMPORTANT: Only bet with money you can afford to lose. There is no minimum/maximum to your bankroll. Play with what you are comfortable with.
Step 2: Explanation of the odds
There are three type of formats:
Step 3: What to bet on?/How to find value?
You can bet on whatever you like really. Bookies offer many types of markets (1X2, corner kicks, total amount of goals,...). The more you know about a team or league, the better capable you are of betting on it. If you want to be succesfull on the long-term, you need to find value. Here is a useful thread regarding the percentage chance of winning required for a bet to be value. Pretty much you need to find where you have an edge on the bookies. Let's run through it with a quick example: You are an expert in the Eredivisie (The Netherlands) and the game Excelsior - FC Twente is today. You notice that the odds for FC Twente to win are 2.00, meaning the bookies give them a 50% chance to win this game. However, you have done research to both teams and you yourself give FC Twente a 75% chance to win this game. Basically, the odds you give to the outcome are higher than the odds the bookie gives to the outcome. In your opinion, there is value to bet on Twente, so you bet on Twente to win.
Step 4: Bankroll Management
How much to bet? Bankroll management is a crucial key to long-term success. The majority of successful betters use 1-5% of their bankroll per bet, depending on how certain they are. However, there is no real right or wrong answer. You need to watch this for yourself. But keep this in mind: Let's say you have a bankroll of €100. If you bet using 1%, you can make 100 bets. If you bet using 5%, you can only make 20 bets. If you have a bad case of variance/losses, using 1% is obviously safer. IMPORTANT: Do not chase losses. Once you get into a bad streak, it is important to keep bankroll management in order to not throw everything on one bet.
Interesting tools/tips/tricks
Hope this guide can help starters in the world of betting on soccefootball. As mentioned before, please comment/add things that you feel are missing! Would be great to work together to create the best possible help to beginners :)
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Draft Kings Soccer 2/10

Four matches on tap for tomorrow. Headlining the action will be Tottenham visiting Liverpool.
 
English Premier League Matches 2/10/2015
Home vs Away
2:45 PM EST/11:45 AM PST Kickoff:
3 PM EST/12 PM PST Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds from Bovada Sportsbook as of 2/9/2015 10:38:41 EST:
Home Team vs Away Team
Arsenal -500 vs Leicester +1200
Hull +120 vs Aston Villa +250
Sunderland -110 vs QPR +310
Liverpool -120 vs Tottenham +300
 
League Table/Latest Form:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 5 Form
1. Chelsea 24 17 5 2 54 21 33 56 DLWWDW
2. Manchester City 24 14 7 3 47 24 +23 49 DWDLDD
3. Southampton 24 14 3 7 38 17 +21 45 DWWWLW
4. Manchester United 24 12 8 4 40 23 +17 44 DDLWWD
5. Tottenham 24 13 4 7 37 31 +6 43 DWLWWW
6. Arsenal 24 12 6 6 45 27 +18 42 WLWWWL
7. Liverpool 24 11 6 7 33 27 +6 39 WDWWWD
8. West Ham 24 10 7 7 36 28 +8 37 LDDWLD
9. Swansea 24 9 7 8 28 31 -3 34 LDDLWD
10. Stoke City 24 9 6 9 27 29 -2 33 WDLWWD
11. Newcastle United 24 8 7 9 29 35 -6 31 WDLLWD
12. Everton 24 6 9 9 31 34 -3 27 LLDDWD
13. Crystal Palace 24 6 8 10 26 34 -8 26 DDWWLW
14. Sunderland 24 4 12 8 22 34 -12 24 DLLLWD
15. West Bromwich Albion 24 5 8 11 22 34 -12 23 LDWDLD
16. Aston Villa 24 5 7 12 12 32 -20 22 DDLLLL
17. Burnley 24 4 9 11 23 40 -17 21 LDDWLL
18. Hull City 24 4 8 12 21 34 -13 20 LWLLLD
19. Queens Park Rangers 24 5 4 15 24 43 -19 19 DDLLLL
20. Leicester City 24 4 5 15 21 38 -17 17 WDWLLL
 
LINKS:
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Draft Kings Soccer 2/11

A tasty 6 games on tap for tomorrow ladies and gents.
 
English Premier League Matches 2/11/2015
Home vs Away
2:45 PM EST/11:45 AM PST Kickoff:
3 PM EST/12 PM PST Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds/Over Under from Bovada Sportsbook as of 2/10/2015 17:39:12 EST:
Home Team vs Away Team O/U
Chelsea -375 vs Everton +1000 2.5
Manchester United -400 vs Burnley +1100 2.5
Southampton -145 vs West Ham +400 2.5
Stoke City +450 vs Manchester City -165 2.5
Crystal Palace +130 vs Newcastle +200 2.5
West Brom +140 vs Swansea +200 2.5
 
League Table/Latest Form:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
(will update once Gameweek 25 is completed)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 5 Form
1. Chelsea 24 17 5 2 54 21 33 56 DLWWDW
2. Manchester City 24 14 7 3 47 24 +23 49 DWDLDD
3. Southampton 24 14 3 7 38 17 +21 45 DWWWLW
4. Manchester United 24 12 8 4 40 23 +17 44 DDLWWD
5. Tottenham 24 13 4 7 37 31 +6 43 DWLWWW
6. Arsenal 24 12 6 6 45 27 +18 42 WLWWWL
7. Liverpool 24 11 6 7 33 27 +6 39 WDWWWD
8. West Ham 24 10 7 7 36 28 +8 37 LDDWLD
9. Swansea 24 9 7 8 28 31 -3 34 LDDLWD
10. Stoke City 24 9 6 9 27 29 -2 33 WDLWWD
11. Newcastle United 24 8 7 9 29 35 -6 31 WDLLWD
12. Everton 24 6 9 9 31 34 -3 27 LLDDWD
13. Crystal Palace 24 6 8 10 26 34 -8 26 DDWWLW
14. Sunderland 24 4 12 8 22 34 -12 24 DLLLWD
15. West Bromwich Albion 24 5 8 11 22 34 -12 23 LDWDLD
16. Aston Villa 24 5 7 12 12 32 -20 22 DDLLLL
17. Burnley 24 4 9 11 23 40 -17 21 LDDWLL
18. Hull City 24 4 8 12 21 34 -13 20 LWLLLD
19. Queens Park Rangers 24 5 4 15 24 43 -19 19 DDLLLL
20. Leicester City 24 4 5 15 21 38 -17 17 WDWLLL
 
LINKS:
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Draft Kings Soccer 3/4

Seven games on this Wednesday afternoon.
 
English Premier League Matches 3/4/2015
Home vs Away
2:45 PM EST/ 11:45 AM PST Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds/Over Under from Bovada Sportsbook:
 
Home Team vs Away Team O/U
Man City -425 vs Leicester +1200 3
Newcastle +315 vs Man United +110 2.5
QPR +575 vs Arsenal -200 2.5
Stoke +140 vs Everton +190 2.5
Tottenham -135 vs Swansea +400 2.5
West Ham +475 vs Chelsea -170 2.5
Liverpool -300 vs Burnley +800 3
 
League Table/Latest Form through Gameweek 27:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 5 Form
1. Chelsea 26 18 6 2 56 22 34 60 WWDWWD
2. Manchester City 27 16 7 4 57 27 30 55 LDDWWL
3. Arsenal 27 15 6 6 51 29 22 51 WWLWWW
4. Manchester United 27 14 8 5 46 26 20 50 WWDWLW
5. Liverpool 27 14 6 7 40 30 10 48 WWDWWW
6. Southampton 27 14 4 9 38 20 18 46 WWLDLL
7. Tottenham 26 13 5 8 41 36 +5 44 LWWWLD
8. Swansea 27 11 7 9 31 34 -3 40 LWDLWW
9. West Ham 27 10 9 8 39 33 6 39
10. Stoke City 27 11 6 10 31 34 -3 39 WWDLWW
11. Newcastle United 27 9 8 10 32 42 -10 35 LWDDLW
12. Crystal Palace 27 7 9 11 31 38 -7 30 WLWDLW
13. West Bromwich Albion 27 7 9 11 25 34 -9 30 DLDWDW
14. Everton 27 6 10 11 33 39 -6 28 DWDLDL
15. Hull City 27 6 8 13 25 36 -11 26 LLDWWL
16. Sunderland 27 4 13 10 22 38 -16 25 LWDLDL
17. Queens Park Rangers 26 6 4 16 27 45 -18 22 LLLWLL
18. Burnley 27 4 10 13 25 45 -20 22 LLDLDL
19. Aston Villa 27 5 7 15 13 37 -24 22 LLLLLL
20. Leicester City 26 4 6 16 24 42 -18 18 WLLLLD
 
LINKS:
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Could someone please explain soccer moneyline and spreads to me?

For Example:
Team Spread Moneyline
Stoke City +0.5 (+115) +395
Manchester City -0.5 (-145) -145
I understand the basics of sports betting but as I can gather, in soccer certain bets don't apply after regular time or if the game ends in OT.
My question has to do with regular time vs overtime vs penalties vs who wins the game. What is the difference in spreads and ML when it comes to soccer?
Are games that end in PKs considered a tie?
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Draft Kings Soccer 3/14

Five games for us to select from.
 
English Premier League Matches 3/14/2015
Home vs Away
11 AM ET/ 8 AM PT Kickoff:
1:30 PM ET/ 10:30 AM PT Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds/Over Under from Bovada Sportsbook:
Home Team vs Away Team O/U
Arsenal -250 vs West Ham +700 2.5
Leicester +120 vs Hull City +240 2.5
Sunderland +125 vs Aston Villa +230 2.5
West Brom +130 vs Stoke City +220 2.5
Burnley +600 vs Manchester City -225 2.5
 
League Table/Latest Form:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 6 Form
1. Chelsea 27 19 6 2 57 22 35 63 WDWWDW
2. Manchester City 28 17 7 4 59 27 32 58 DDWWLW
3. Arsenal 28 16 6 6 53 30 23 54 WLWWWW
4. Manchester United 28 15 8 5 47 26 21 53 WDWLWW
5. Liverpool 28 15 6 7 42 30 12 51 WDWWWW
6. Tottenham 28 15 5 8 46 39 7 50 WWWLDW
7. Southampton 28 15 4 9 39 20 19 49 WLDLLW
8. Stoke City 28 12 6 10 33 34 -1 42 WDLWWW
9. Swansea 28 11 7 10 33 37 -4 40 WDLWWL
10. West Ham 28 10 9 9 39 34 5 39 LDDDLL
11. Newcastle United 28 9 8 11 32 43 -11 35 WDDLWL
12. Crystal Palace 28 7 9 12 31 39 -8 30 LWDLWL
13. West Bromwich Albion 28 7 9 12 26 36 -10 30 LDWDWL
14. Everton 28 6 10 12 33 41 -8 28 WDLDLL
15. Hull City 28 6 9 13 26 37 -11 27 LDWWLD
16. Sunderland 28 4 14 10 23 39 -16 26 WDLDLD
17. Aston Villa 28 6 7 15 15 38 -23 25 LLLLLW
18. Queens Park Rangers 28 6 4 18 29 49 -20 22 LLWLLL
19. Burnley 28 4 10 14 25 47 -22 22 LDLDLL
20. Leicester City 27 4 6 17 24 44 -20 18 LLLLDL
 
LINKS:
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Draft Kings Soccer 2/7

It's Derby Day in England with 7 games on the table. Leading the day off will be the North London Derby with Tottenham hosting Arsenal, and ending with the Merseyside Derby where Everton host city neighbors Liverpool.
 
English Premier League Matches 2/7/2015
Home vs Away  
7:45 AM EST/4:45 PST Kickoff:
10 AM EST/7 AM PST Kickoff:
12:30 PM EST/9:30 PST Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds from Bovada Sportsbook as of 2/6/2014 10:14:41 EST (will update Friday evening need be):
Home Team vs Away Team
Tottenham +220 vs Arsenal +115
Aston Villa +1100 vs Chelsea -350
Leicester +140 vs Crystal Palace +200
Manchester City -550 vs Hull +1400
Queens Park Rangers +350 vs Southampton -125
Swansea -125 vs Sunderland +375
Everton +210 vs Liverpool +130
 
League Table/Latest Form:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 5 Form
1. Chelsea 23 16 5 2 52 20 +32 53 WDLWWD
2. Manchester City 23 14 6 3 46 23 +23 48 WDWDLD
3. Manchester United 23 12 7 4 39 22 +17 43 WDDLWW
4. Southampton 23 13 3 7 37 17 +20 42 WDWWWL
5. Arsenal 23 12 6 5 44 25 +19 42 WWLWWW
6. Tottenham 23 12 4 7 35 30 +5 40 WDWLWW
7. Liverpool 23 11 5 7 33 27 +6 38 WWDWWW
8. West Ham 23 10 6 7 35 27 +8 36 LLDDWL
9. Swansea 23 9 6 8 27 30 -3 33 WLDDLW
10. Stoke 23 9 5 9 26 28 -2 32 WWDLWW
11. Newcastle United 23 8 6 9 29 35 -6 30 LWDLLW
12. Everton 23 6 8 9 31 34 -3 26 LLLDDW
13. Crystal Palace 23 5 8 10 25 34 -9 23 LDDWWL
14. Sunderland 23 4 11 8 21 33 -12 23 LDLLLW
15. West Bromwich Albion 23 5 7 11 20 32 -12 22 LLDWDL
16. Aston Villa 23 5 7 11 11 30 -19 22 LDDLLL
17. Burnley 23 4 8 11 21 38 -17 20 LDDWLL
18. Hull 23 4 7 12 20 33 -13 19 WLWLLL
19. Queens Park Rangers 23 5 4 14 24 42 -18 19 LDDLLL
20. Leicester 23 4 5 14 21 37 -16 17 LWDWLL
 
LINKS:
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Draft Kings Soccer 3/3

Three games on tap.
 
English Premier League Matches 3/3/2015
Home vs Away
2:45 PM EST/ 11:45 AM PST Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds/Over Under from Bovada Sportsbook:
Home Team vs Away Team O/U
Aston Villa +160 vs West Brom +190 2.5
Hull City +115 vs Sunderland +250 2.5
Southampton -150 vs Crystal Palace +450 2.5
 
League Table/Latest Form:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 5 Form
1. Chelsea 26 18 6 2 56 22 34 60 WWDWWD
2. Manchester City 27 16 7 4 57 27 30 55 LDDWWL
3. Arsenal 27 15 6 6 51 29 22 51 WWLWWW
4. Manchester United 27 14 8 5 46 26 20 50 WWDWLW
5. Liverpool 27 14 6 7 40 30 10 48 WWDWWW
6. Southampton 27 14 4 9 38 20 18 46 WWLDLL
7. Tottenham 26 13 5 8 41 36 +5 44 LWWWLD
8. Swansea 27 11 7 9 31 34 -3 40 LWDLWW
9. West Ham 27 10 9 8 39 33 6 39
10. Stoke City 27 11 6 10 31 34 -3 39 WWDLWW
11. Newcastle United 27 9 8 10 32 42 -10 35 LWDDLW
12. Crystal Palace 27 7 9 11 31 38 -7 30 WLWDLW
13. West Bromwich Albion 27 7 9 11 25 34 -9 30 DLDWDW
14. Everton 27 6 10 11 33 39 -6 28 DWDLDL
15. Hull City 27 6 8 13 25 36 -11 26 LLDWWL
16. Sunderland 27 4 13 10 22 38 -16 25 LWDLDL
17. Queens Park Rangers 26 6 4 16 27 45 -18 22 LLLWLL
18. Burnley 27 4 10 13 25 45 -20 22 LLDLDL
19. Aston Villa 27 5 7 15 13 37 -24 22 LLLLLL
20. Leicester City 26 4 6 16 24 42 -18 18 WLLLLD
 
LINKS:
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Draft Kings Soccer 2/21

A seven game slate for us to feast on this Saturday ladies and gents.
 
English Premier League Matches 2/21/2015
Home vs Away
10 AM EST/7 AM PST Kickoff:
12:30 PM EST/9:30 AM PST Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds/Over Under from Bovada Sportsbook as of 2/18/2015 17:32:53 EST:
Home Team vs Away Team O/U
Aston Villa +175 vs Stoke City +160 2
Chelsea -500 vs Burnley +1400 3
Crystal Palace +375 vs Arsenal -140 2.5
Hull City EVEN vs QPR +300 2
Sunderland +145 vs West Brom +200 2
Swansea +300 vs Manchester United -110 2.5
Manchester City -375 vs Newcastle +1000 3
 
League Table/Latest Form:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 5 Form
1. Chelsea 25 18 5 2 55 21 +34 59 LWWDWW
2. Manchester City 25 15 7 3 51 25 +26 52 WDLDDW
3. Manchester United 25 13 8 4 43 24 +19 47 DLWWDW
4. Southampton 25 14 4 7 38 17 +21 46 DWWWLD
5. Arsenal 25 13 6 6 47 28 +19 45 LWWWLW
6. Tottenham 25 13 4 8 39 34 +5 43 WLWWWL
7. Liverpool 25 12 6 7 36 29 +7 42 DWWWDW
8. West Ham 25 10 8 7 36 28 +8 38 DDWLDD
9. Swansea 25 9 7 9 28 33 -5 34 DDLWDL
10. Stoke City 25 9 6 10 28 33 -5 33 DLWWDL
11. Newcastle United 25 8 8 9 31 37 -6 32 DLLWDD
12. Everton 25 6 9 10 31 35 -4 27 LDDWDL
13. Crystal Palace 25 6 9 10 27 35 -8 27 DWWLWD
14. West Bromwich Albion 25 6 8 11 24 34 -10 26 DWDLDW
15. Sunderland 25 4 12 9 22 36 -14 24 LLLWDL
16. Hull City 25 5 8 12 23 34 -11 23 WLLLDW
17. Queens Park Rangers 25 6 4 15 26 43 -17 22 DLLLLW
18. Aston Villa 25 5 7 13 12 34 -22 22 DLLLLL
19. Burnley 25 4 9 12 24 43 -19 21 DDWLLL
20. Leicester City 25 4 5 16 22 40 -18 17 DWLLLL
 
LINKS:
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Premier League Soccer on Draft Kings 2/1

Small slate for tomorrow ladies and gentlemen, fields should be tight:
Home vs Away
8:30 AM EST Kickoff:
11 AM EST Kickoff:
Moneyline Odds from Bovada Sportsbook:
Previous Form / Table Position:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
LINKS:
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Draft Kings Soccer 2/28

A six game slate for us on this last day of February.
 
English Premier League Matches 2/28/2015
Home vs Away
7:45 AM EST/4:45 AM PST Kickoff:
10 AM EST/7 AM PST Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds/Over Under from Bovada Sportsbook:
Home Team vs Away Team O/U
West Ham EVEN vs Crystal Palace +275 2.5
Burnley +160 vs Swansea +180 2.5
Manchester United -300 vs Sunderland +900 2.5
Newcastle -105 vs Aston Villa +300 2
Stoke City -110 vs Hull City +325 2.5
West Brom +230 vs Southampton +125 2
 
League Table/Latest Form:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 5 Form
1. Chelsea 26 18 6 2 56 22 +34 60 WWDWWD
2. Manchester City 26 16 7 3 56 25 +31 55 DLDDWW
3. Arsenal 26 14 6 6 49 29 +20 48 WWWLWW
4. Manchester United 26 13 8 5 44 26 +18 47 LWWDWL
5. Southampton 26 14 4 8 38 19 +19 46 WWWLDL
6. Liverpool 26 13 6 7 38 29 +9 45 WWWDWW
7. Tottenham 26 13 5 8 41 36 +5 44 LWWWLD
8. West Ham 26 10 9 7 38 30 +8 39 DWLDDD
9. Swansea 26 10 7 9 30 34 -4 37 DLWDLW
10. Stoke City 26 10 6 10 30 34 -4 36 LWWDLW
11. Newcastle United 26 8 8 10 31 42 -11 32 LLWDDL
12. Everton 26 6 10 10 33 37 -4 28 DDWDLD
13. Crystal Palace 26 6 9 11 28 37 -9 27 WWLWDL
14. West Bromwich Albion 26 6 9 11 24 34 -10 27 WDLDWD
15. Hull City 26 6 8 12 25 35 -10 26 LLLDWW
16. Sunderland 26 4 13 9 22 36 -14 25 LLWDLD
17. Queens Park Rangers 26 6 4 16 27 45 -18 22 LLLLWL
18. Burnley 26 4 10 12 25 44 -19 22 DWLLLD
19. Aston Villa 26 5 7 14 13 36 -23 22 LLLLLL
20. Leicester City 26 4 6 16 24 42 -18 18 WLLLLD
 
LINKS:
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Need help with my first soccer bet for USA vs Paraguay tomorrow. 11/6/16

I undestand spreads and moneyline as I bet on NBA and NFL games. However soccefootball betting is another beast. What i dont get in soccer betting is when team A and team B are a PK and the final result ends in a tie does my intial bet get refunded? Also if i pick Moneyline for team A and the final score is a draw i lose that bet correct unless i bet moneyline Draw . Lastly if I bet draw no bet on team A a win yields me money however a draw results in my bet getting returned. Thanks for all the help and copa america and the euros are already kicking arse
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Let's aggregate our Predictions, utilize the wisdom of the subreddit, and beat the sportsbooks

How about we crowdsource our own soccer prediction competition, starting with the Olympics? All we need to do is post lines, give our predictions, and let the games begin.
I posted this in /sportsbook, but we could use this structure for any/all daily picks. Just gives us more concrete data about the community's predictions, that we could leverage collectively. Definitely can extend this beyond olympics, to any match.
Rather than commenting “I like Australia with the moneyline” we make numeric/percentage predictions, aggregate, and see how our collective predictions would function using the Kelly Criterion. Example: Will Australia defeat Canada in tomorrow’s Women’s soccer match? My prediction: Australia only has a 33% chance of winning. Initial odds found here: http://www.oddsportal.com/socceworld/olympic-games-women/ , and first day’s events found here:
Question Event Prediction
Will Sweden win their first match? Women's soccer 78%
Will Australia win their first match? Women's soccer 33%
Will Brazil win their first match? Women's soccer 40%
Will Germany win their first match? Women's soccer 99%
Will USA win their first match? Women's soccer 96%
Let’s start leveraging the wisdom of the crowd. We’re all here to predict, to discuss, and to analyze our own positions, may as well see if we could beat the sportsbooks together. Here’s the initial spreadsheet I’m working with:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F01gpHdnQ89FrFmad382fbASrGs7T0Q1wWD6rPxjeTA/edit?usp=sharing
We could even make this into a community competition and see which of us makes the most accurate projections, and at the very least we’re crowdsourcing some potentially valuable data that will help us all. Also, whoever's the king or queen of soccer betting will be able to prove it to the rest of the community, further legitimizing their analysis. Can finally distill who the experts among us are. I see no downside of simply listing predictions.
Thoughts? Any takers?
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Viewing Moneylines Question

This screenshot is the ESPN app which shows all games tonight, always accompanied with the moneyline odds on the right. It appears as if the favorites are always shown, so when I see NYR +105 as the favorite this means that PIT is +110 or higher correct?
Is this normal to see both teams on the positive side for the moneyline? I'm new to sports betting, but I think you see this sometimes in soccer when a draw is a likely result, but why a hockey playoff game?
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Bååth Model Week 6 2014/15 EPL

Hey /SoccerBetting !!!
So this is the last week I'll be using last seasons data, as from week 7 I will be switching to this season's data only!!!
So this week I have updated the spreadsheet in the hope of trying to make it a little more user friendly!!!
How to read the new layout is as follows:
So here is this weeks predicitons
As for the Heinz last week was not the best but least it wasn't a total loss! My Heinz picks this week are:
£57 returns £1099.82
As for the £5-500 rolling acca I am putting the £184.32 on Liverpool vs Everton O10 Corners @1.61 this returns £296.76
Have fun everyone
P.S. Please give me some feedback on the new layout!
Edit: well Fuck -.- 10 corners only one more needed .... I'll start a new acca next week I reckon.
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Draft Kings Soccer 2/8

Only two games on the slate today (for some reason the 7 AM kickoff is excluded?) with Stoke City visiting Newcastle, and West Ham United playing host to Manchester United.
 
English Premier League Matches 2/8/2015
Home vs Away
9:05 AM EST/6:05 AM PST Kickoff:
11:15 AM EST/8:15 PST Kickoff:
 
Moneyline Odds from Bovada Sportsbook as of 2/7/2014 3:40:26 EST:
Home Team vs Away Team
Newcastle +125 vs Stoke City +230
West Ham +300 vs Manchester United -110
 
League Table/Latest Form:
(club's latest game is last in form list)
P Club GP W D L GF GA GD Pts Last 5 Form
1. Chelsea 24 17 5 2 54 21 33 56 DLWWDW
2. Manchester City 24 14 7 3 47 24 +23 49 DWDLDD
3. Southampton 24 14 3 7 38 17 +21 45 DWWWLW
4. Manchester United 23 12 7 4 39 22 +17 43 WDDLWW
5. Tottenham 24 13 4 7 37 31 +6 43 DWLWWW
6. Arsenal 24 12 6 6 45 27 +18 42 WLWWWL
7. Liverpool 24 11 6 7 33 27 +6 49 WDWWWD
8. West Ham 23 10 6 7 35 27 +8 36 LLDDWL
9. Swansea 24 9 7 8 28 31 -3 34 LDDLWD
10. Stoke City 23 9 5 9 26 28 -2 32 WWDLWW
11. Newcastle United 23 8 6 9 29 35 -6 30 LWDLLW
12. Everton 24 6 9 9 31 34 -3 27 LLDDWD
13. Crystal Palace 24 6 8 10 26 34 -8 26 DDWWLW
14. Sunderland 24 4 12 8 22 34 -12 24 DLLLWD
15. West Bromwich Albion 23 5 7 11 20 32 -12 22 LLDWDL
16. Aston Villa 24 5 7 12 12 32 -20 22 DDLLLL
17. Hull City 24 4 8 12 21 34 -13 20 LWLLLD
18. Burnley 24 4 8 11 21 38 -17 20 LDDWLL
19. Queens Park Rangers 24 5 4 15 24 43 -19 19 DDLLLL
20. Leicester City 24 4 5 15 21 38 -17 17 WDWLLL
 
LINKS:
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What's the difference between a pick ATS and the moneyline?

I was looking at some soccer lines, and some of them were a pick ATS. In this instance, what is the difference between betting ATS or the moneyline?
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MLS Week 9 Picks

I dunno if any of you guys bet on North American soccer but I do it every week (not saying I'm successful!) so I thought I'd start a thread this week and open up some discussion on the matter.
New York @ Toronto Dax McCarty is out...that leaves the Red Bulls with a gaping hole in their midfield. The league's most efficient passer will be sidelined with a quad injury. RBNY have only won in Toronto twice. They'll also be playing their 4th game in 14 days. Meanwhile Toronto will be playing their 3rd in 7, however the midweek home match against Montreal was largely a group of secondary players and most of the starters should be fresh. I like some of the things TFC have been doing lately, especially at home, but they'll have to be able to prevent the late game mental lapses. I'm saying Toronto wins 2-1. Bet is: Toronto to win (Pick Em) & Toronto to score first (LOSS)(LOSS) Goddamn Toronto, you had the late game mental lapse.
Chicago @ Montreal The Impact have been skidding a bit recently now winless in 3 counting the ACC game this past wednesday. That team was also largely a youth squad. Di Vaio should be fresh and Paponi got a run out at Toronto and he should be able to start finding his legs. This game almost seems too easily set up for MTL and I hate that. Fire are winless on the road and I have to think that continues here. I'll take Montreal...2-0. Bet is: Montreal (on the Moneyline) WIN Perfect score bet too :)
DC @ Columbus DC United are 0-4-1 in Columbus since 2007, DeRo has been ineffective at best thus far this season, now Chris Pontius is out with an injury. DC looked full of holes last week home to Philly and while I don't think Columbus has the same level of attack that Philly does, but I think Columbus SHoULD be able to get the job done here. Bet is: Columbus (on the Moneyline) --C'bus is up 3-0 at Half, I'm gonna call this a win now
Philadelphia @ New England Revolution haven't won since week 1, and looked embarrassed after the thrashing they took at NY last week. Philly on the other hand looked pretty damn good against DC. New England has been shut out in 4 of 6 matches, Union has scored at least 1 goal in all their games, one of which was against against New England. Toledo is the ref...dude has already called 5 penalties in 4 games this season. He's nuts and frankly I think he likes to be the center of attention. I have no idea who wins or who comes up on the good side of the ref. Bet is: Total OVER 2.5 LOSS Damnit!! 2-0 New England, I really REALLY thought Philly or Jack Mac would snag at least 1 to make it close.
Lastly, I'll take Sporting Kansas City (on the Moneyline) (LOSS) wow...I'm gonna have to see the highlites, 2-2 at half Portland takes it in the 2nd, it's VERY tough to win at SKC. Good on ya Timbers.
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